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On a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you like or dislike these starters?
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May 10, 2016 10:52 PM

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Protaku said:
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Rowlet is dope, Poppilo looks dumb, and Litten looks like it was supposed to be a meme. I'm really interested to see what Rowlet's evolution look like because I thought they nailed owls with Noctowls. Hopefully they overdesign it and make it look really badass.

What are you talking about. It's Rowlet who was born to be a meme
But litten looks like it'd designed was based on grumpy cat
May 11, 2016 12:17 AM

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Gamefreak:You know what makes grass types even better? Adding an additional ice weakness.

Fire type seems generic, praying for a cool dual type that goes from quadrupedal to bipedal.

Water type is another seal version ugh....wish they went water dragon with the typing at least for some cool design.

Haven't really been into pokemon since Black 2 and White 2, which imo were some of the more underrated games in the series. XY added mega evolutions to pokes that could have evolved naturally and gave pokemon that were OP as fuck even better stats. Gen 3 remake was alright but Emerald outclassed Ruby and Sapphire and it showed in the remake since there was no Battle Frontier. So idk if I'll even get these games, if mega flygon gets confirmed maybe I'll have a change of heart.
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May 11, 2016 2:02 AM
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I'm a sucker for cats, so I'm all about that Litten (and really want to see what its evolutions look like).
May 11, 2016 4:31 AM
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I have kinda mix feelings, i'm not a big fan of the designs but they look cool in the animations.
Bowtie owl is by far my fav from the 3 XD

Protaku said:

Litten: Bottleg Litleo , and will probably be a generic Fire/Fighting type.


Oh god i hope not ... we have enough fire/fighting starters...


The legendaries are kinda meh.
May 11, 2016 4:34 AM

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/shrug
i think they're p cool but the seal one is kinda eh
May 11, 2016 4:34 AM

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Really bad... If I had to pick one, I'd probably say the grass starter, but that doesn't say much either.


May 11, 2016 4:58 AM

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Worst gen thus far...
Usually even in the worst looking generations there is at least 1 starter which I like....
In this case there is none.
Hopefully the evolutions look better , or there are better looking ones you can catch early on.
May 11, 2016 5:42 AM
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I like the bird.
The cat is meh, is like a orange poochyena.
The seal is stealing cromosomes to all live being in 1 Km around him.
 
May 11, 2016 5:43 AM

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Kinda like Litten so I'll go with it.
May 11, 2016 5:47 AM

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Looks fine to me.

Don't why are grown dudes are losing their shit over this.
May 11, 2016 6:23 AM

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tsudecimo said:
Looks fine to me.

Don't why are grown dudes are losing their shit over this.

It happens every time a new gen is released. I'm used to it by now
May 11, 2016 7:34 AM
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I dont think ill be play sun or moon anymore....
May 11, 2016 7:41 AM
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They look really nice to me - Grass type is especially funny.

Also, that Sun Legendary is quite awesome too.
May 11, 2016 8:19 AM

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Fire type is cool
Water type is a much inferior version of seal
Grass types looks like hoothoot and to me it's non appealing. I can't figure what kind of nose it has got, and is just a bloated pokemon although flying/grass seems very helpful.



first and 2nd gen were just awesome designing wise. I haven't even bothered to watch after 4th gen.
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May 11, 2016 8:54 AM
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Hmmmmm, Grass and Water not impressed. Fire, looks too much like a normal cat.

Hope the evolutions are decent.
May 11, 2016 9:08 AM

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I'm keeping my vote at a 5 for now because I haven't seen the other evolutions yet. I guess that the starters look OK, but I don't like Popplio that much because compared to the other starters, it just looks silly!
*ponders*
May 11, 2016 9:25 AM

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I like Rowlet and Litten.

Popplio is garbage.

9/10.

May 11, 2016 11:07 AM

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They're pretty bad but what can you do. After nearly 1000 Pokemon, ideas start to run thin. Overall, I kinda like the owl. The fire cat is meh (I'm guessing it's fire/dark, which'll be pretty cool). The water seal is dumb.

I like what they've done with Gen 7's aesthetics. It's like the design change between FF VII and FF VIII. GF got rid of the chibi sprites and made the overworld completely 3D. I have to applaud them for that. I just hope they've improved the game mechanics as well. I want a better story more than anything. A difficulty setting would also be nice.

May 11, 2016 11:37 AM

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I think they're pretty okay and would probably like them even more if I was 5 years old.

Probably going to choose Rowlet as my starter, but I also really like Popplio.
May 11, 2016 11:41 AM

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They look fine, with the exception of Poppolio. Overall, I wanna see the final evolutions before making any judgements to their quality.

Also, seriously guys, starter pokemon have always been on the cute side before their evolutions. This isn't a new thing. I swear, Pokemon has one of the whiniest fanbases.
May 11, 2016 11:48 AM

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yhunata said:
They look fine, with the exception of Poppolio. Overall, I wanna see the final evolutions before making any judgements to their quality.

Also, seriously guys, starter pokemon have always been on the cute side before their evolutions. This isn't a new thing. I swear, Pokemon has one of the whiniest fanbases.

Mhmm. Maybe if more people actually considered it's target demographic more they wouldn't get so up in arms about stuff like this. Popplio especially. It has a great design for kids, so who gives a rats ass if ya think it's ugly, some kids out there are going to love how goofy it looks, and that's reason enough for him to be here.
May 11, 2016 12:09 PM

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Mystifire said:
yhunata said:
They look fine, with the exception of Poppolio. Overall, I wanna see the final evolutions before making any judgements to their quality.

Also, seriously guys, starter pokemon have always been on the cute side before their evolutions. This isn't a new thing. I swear, Pokemon has one of the whiniest fanbases.

Mhmm. Maybe if more people actually considered it's target demographic more they wouldn't get so up in arms about stuff like this. Popplio especially. It has a great design for kids, so who gives a rats ass if ya think it's ugly, some kids out there are going to love how goofy it looks, and that's reason enough for him to be here.

Absolutely wrong.

I am their target demographic.

I am 25.

The designs are amazing.
May 11, 2016 12:14 PM

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Starters are kinda disappointment but I'm sure will warm up to them. I really like the owl tho.

Red_Keys said:
^ They fucked up so bad with this one. Just make a penguin. Why does it need crazy spikes and blades and diamonds and circles and whatever the fuck is covering its entire face? Just make it look like a penguin! Why did they deliberately make it look stupid?

How did they fail with Empoleon? Even from the name you can see that its based on a penguin and on Napoleon - a king, a ruler, part of royalty - hence the trident on its head, the lace on its chest and other royalty features. It has a nice theme, just like other Sinnoh starters, I don't see how just making him an overgrown penguin would be better. It's vastly superior to a flying orange dragon or a tortoise with cannons.
May 11, 2016 5:09 PM

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ibear said:
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What are you talking about. It's Rowlet who was born to be a meme
But litten looks like it'd designed was based on grumpy cat

How about we just agree that they'd both make awesome memes :D
I mean, I already made Popplio into a meme but that's besides the point lol.

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Fire type is cool
Water type is a much inferior version of seal
Grass types looks like hoothoot and to me it's non appealing. I can't figure what kind of nose it has got, and is just a bloated pokemon although flying/grass seems very helpful.

first and 2nd gen were just awesome designing wise. I haven't even bothered to watch after 4th gen.

Grass/Flying-type is one of the least helpful typing's you could give a Pokemon, right behind Ice/Flying.
But yee, sounds like you had a lot of the same thoughts I did lol. I don't get why Gamefreak keeps making Pokemon out of animals we already have tons of, but they haven't done animals like lemurs, flamingos, peacocks, koalas, etc.
May 11, 2016 8:48 PM

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From those I'd probably pick grumpy cat, only to make my main something else anyway. They're meh designs, but not the worst starters out there.

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but they haven't done animals like lemurs, flamingos, peacocks, koalas, etc.

Now I want to see a pokemon that starts off as a cute and cuddly koala then evolves into a savage dropbear!
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May 11, 2016 9:54 PM

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May 11, 2016 9:59 PM

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They look fine to me, which is surprising to me because Pokemon designs have fallen a lot. They usually look like Digimon wannabes who then decided to try and be Transformers or something.

At least they are cute though.

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May 11, 2016 11:52 PM
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I think I figured out why Popplio rubs me the wrong way so much as a starter; it's less standard than usual for a starter. Most starters are pretty straight forward or have some pretty standard mixes:



Like pretty much it was always a creature with some element of nature incorporated into its design or two animals combined with one element of nature. All sound like pretty good standard Pokemon to start with before you go on to explore what interesting and sometimes zany creatures which await you outside the lab. And then there's a clown starter. Or a design based off a clown compared to the other starters which are just based off other creatures or elements of nature solely. Like, it doesn't even start relatively calm in order to turn into something a little more zany as they evolve/add a zany element like most of Kalos starters, or Oshawott where they just straight up bring in anthro versions of the previous evolution or something; Popplio just STARTS with a zany element-- which is really more fit for non-starters.

Now for some, a Pokemon who doesn't fit the usual pattern is going to be appealing. As for me, I guess just running into something outside of the usual pattern will take some getting used to...?

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May 12, 2016 3:08 AM

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Protaku said:


_Yato_God said:
Fire type is cool
Water type is a much inferior version of seal
Grass types looks like hoothoot and to me it's non appealing. I can't figure what kind of nose it has got, and is just a bloated pokemon although flying/grass seems very helpful. Also there aren't many good grass type moves so adding flying types is also a bonus.

first and 2nd gen were just awesome designing wise. I haven't even bothered to watch after 4th gen.

Grass/Flying-type is one of the least helpful typing's you could give a Pokemon, right behind Ice/Flying.
But yee, sounds like you had a lot of the same thoughts I did lol. I don't get why Gamefreak keeps making Pokemon out of animals we already have tons of, but they haven't done animals like lemurs, flamingos, peacocks, koalas, etc.


Grass/fly is good because flying is one of the weakness of grass so that's one weakness less. And another thing is most people keep starter pokemon in their team so teaching fly to starter would be really helpful cause you don't usually get a good flying pokemon until really later in the game.

@Caelidesu isn't Slakoth based on a Koala?
May 12, 2016 3:15 AM

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_Yato_God said:
@Caelidesu isn't Slakoth based on a Koala?




Not really... I get the feeling that it's based on a different animal for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on it.
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May 12, 2016 3:59 AM

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@Caelidesu isn't Slakoth based on a Koala?




Not really... I get the feeling that it's based on a different animal for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on it.



Lol okay, I thought I am missing something. ;)
May 12, 2016 4:04 AM

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_Yato_God said:
Grass/fly is good because flying is one of the weakness of grass so that's one weakness less. And another thing is most people keep starter pokemon in their team so teaching fly to starter would be really helpful cause you don't usually get a good flying pokemon until really later in the game.

Flying doesn't resist Flying though, so it would still be weak to Flying type moves. Defensively it's not a great combination, with 5 weaknesses (including a 4x Ice weakness), multiple of those being pretty common offensive type moves to run.

That doesn't mean Rowlet and it's evolutions are doomed to be bad though. If it gets a good enough Hidden Ability and stat distribution then it could still be very viable.
May 12, 2016 4:20 AM

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Mystifire said:
_Yato_God said:
Grass/fly is good because flying is one of the weakness of grass so that's one weakness less. And another thing is most people keep starter pokemon in their team so teaching fly to starter would be really helpful cause you don't usually get a good flying pokemon until really later in the game.

Flying doesn't resist Flying though, so it would still be weak to Flying type moves. Defensively it's not a great combination, with 5 weaknesses (including a 4x Ice weakness), multiple of those being pretty common offensive type moves to run.

That doesn't mean Rowlet and it's evolutions are doomed to be bad though. If it gets a good enough Hidden Ability and stat distribution then it could still be very viable.


I hardly keep any grass type pokemon in my team cause bad moves and ineffective against alot of types. Not saying that it's great combination but it's still much better then grass pure, you can finish another grass/fighting/bug pokemon with 1 good flying type attack now.
May 12, 2016 5:41 AM

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I wanna ask, how long does it usually take for the evolution chain of the starters to be revealed?
May 12, 2016 6:34 AM

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yhunata said:
I wanna ask, how long does it usually take for the evolution chain of the starters to be revealed?


Pokemon X and Y were first announced 8 January 2013
The second evolution of the starters were officialy announced 13 september 2013 ( a month before its release)
But we got a ton of info in between those dates, so we might see a lot of new pokémon before we see the starter evolutions
May 12, 2016 6:38 AM

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TheNextChamp said:
yhunata said:
I wanna ask, how long does it usually take for the evolution chain of the starters to be revealed?


Pokemon X and Y were first announced 8 January 2013
The second evolution of the starters were officialy announced 13 september 2013 ( a month before its release)
But we got a ton of info in between those dates, so we might see a lot of new pokémon before we see the starter evolutions


Well, fuck. I hope Rowlet doesn't pull a Chesnaught and I seriously hope Poppolio pulls a Greninja. Oh well, I suppose we can look forward to the new Pokemon in the meantime. Also, Mega-Evolutions for existing Pokemon.
May 12, 2016 11:06 AM

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Well they are easily the weirdest of the bunch. I have found the starters since Gen.5 has begun looking uglier and uglier, but all 3 of these easily tops even the ugliest of the ugliest.
May 12, 2016 1:22 PM

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_Yato_God said:
Protaku said:



Grass/Flying-type is one of the least helpful typing's you could give a Pokemon, right behind Ice/Flying.
But yee, sounds like you had a lot of the same thoughts I did lol. I don't get why Gamefreak keeps making Pokemon out of animals we already have tons of, but they haven't done animals like lemurs, flamingos, peacocks, koalas, etc.


Grass/fly is good because flying is one of the weakness of grass so that's one weakness less. And another thing is most people keep starter pokemon in their team so teaching fly to starter would be really helpful cause you don't usually get a good flying pokemon until really later in the game.

@Caelidesu isn't Slakoth based on a Koala?

. . . You do realize Flying doesn't resist Flying, right?
And I always have an HM slave or two in my campaign party so there's no need for me to curse one of my main Pokemon with an HM. And the main thing that sucks about Grass/Flying type in one is that it's 4x weak to Ice moves, and almost every water type can learn Ice Beam so Rowlet will die vs. Popplio when it shouldn't.
May 12, 2016 5:08 PM

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Not a big fan of Popplio to be honest, this might just end up being the first Gen where I do'nt pick the Water Starter on my first Playthrough (unless he ends up having some sort of killer evolution). On the other hand, Rowlet just.........amuses me, and the Fire starter reminds me of that cat from Blue exorcist, but reaaly Emo-looking
May 12, 2016 7:54 PM

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King_of_Heretics said:
Not a big fan of Popplio to be honest,

Hardly anyone is lol. I was tempted to make the poll about people's favorite starter, just to see exactly how much Popplio is disliked ._.
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Protaku said:
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Not a big fan of Popplio to be honest,

Hardly anyone is lol. I was tempted to make the poll about people's favorite starter, just to see exactly how much Popplio is disliked ._.


Poppolio is my fav. Fuck ya all niggas hating on that cutie.
May 12, 2016 8:21 PM

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Hardly anyone is lol. I was tempted to make the poll about people's favorite starter, just to see exactly how much Popplio is disliked ._.


Poppolio is my fav. Fuck ya all niggas hating on that cutie.

Popplio looks like a failed abortion that was supposed to be a Seel, idk lol.
The dank Popplio memes are already flowing in. I shared this one already but it speaks volumes
May 12, 2016 8:34 PM

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Protaku said:
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But litten looks like it'd designed was based on grumpy cat

How about we just agree that they'd both make awesome memes :D
I mean, I already made Popplio into a meme but that's besides the point lol.


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May 12, 2016 8:52 PM

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Protaku said:
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Poppolio is my fav. Fuck ya all niggas hating on that cutie.

Popplio looks like a failed abortion that was supposed to be a Seel, idk lol.
The dank Popplio memes are already flowing in. I shared this one already but it speaks volumes


YOU ARE A FAILED ABORTION. AND YOUR MEMES ARE 9GAG TIER PROTAKU. FITE MEH.
May 12, 2016 9:13 PM

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Soul-Master said:
Protaku said:

Popplio looks like a failed abortion that was supposed to be a Seel, idk lol.
The dank Popplio memes are already flowing in. I shared this one already but it speaks volumes


YOU ARE A FAILED ABORTION. AND YOUR MEMES ARE 9GAG TIER PROTAKU. FITE MEH.

9gag is love, 9gag is life.
I'll make Popplio the biggest meme since Doge. With the help of 9gag anything is possible.
May 13, 2016 1:19 AM

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Protaku said:
Soul-Master said:


Poppolio is my fav. Fuck ya all niggas hating on that cutie.

Popplio looks like a failed abortion that was supposed to be a Seel, idk lol.
The dank Popplio memes are already flowing in. I shared this one already but it speaks volumes

Plz stop it man, it has feelings too

Just look how cute this guy is
May 13, 2016 1:34 AM

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Poppolio is worse than Oshawott

Poppolio is half the brain that we do
May 13, 2016 7:11 AM

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I mean.

Chikorita.

What even is it.

You people love Totodile and it's just as silly as Popplio.

Turn it into a fighting badass and you'll love it just the same. Fire monkey that fights. You guys loved it. Water frog that fights. You guys loved it. Fire chicken that fights (ninja) you guys loved it. Whatever the fuck Sceptile is people liked it for being a ninja.

They should just make them all /fighting or all /dark.
May 13, 2016 1:04 PM

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TheNextChamp said:
Protaku said:

Popplio looks like a failed abortion that was supposed to be a Seel, idk lol.
The dank Popplio memes are already flowing in. I shared this one already but it speaks volumes

Plz stop it man, it has feelings too

Just look how cute this guy is

Well when you put it that way ... SIKE
I think even Oshawott is better than Popplio lol.
But maybe Popplio will redeem itself with a kick ass final evolution, who knows.
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Will choose Rowlet since the other 2 seem pretty lackluster. However, if Rowlet's evolutions look awful it can say goodbye to being in my final party.
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